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Very pretty music and a great video. Well done
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I think this is very informative. It shows just how blatant the Zionists can be. Let them live in squalor for a while and see how they like it.
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I won't go into details. The image that seems to be pasted and repasted among known hate sites is of one page found in a book about the Holocaust. It doesn't represent all the deaths, just a partial list of them. There were many pages, not just that one.

To give the International Red Cross credit, one must understand that they were dealing in wartime conditions and for almost the first time, during actual combat. The people who worked inside the IRC risked their lives on a daily basis to provide service for POWs and WIAs, wounded in action, and received no award, no recognition, no special pay for their work. They did their job until the war was over, or until they were killed, whichever came first. No one thanked them at all, ever.

The position of the IRC, as best as I can find from their official site, is this:

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They make absolutely no claim about how many died. I personally feel that the number was in the millions, though six million seems extremely high. I will also note that there were not only Jews, but Communists, intellectuals, gays, artists and others who were deemed enemies of the state, rounded up, and deported. All of those who were so tortured and killed, not just the Jews, need to be acknowledged.

However, the number 271,000 is ridiculously low and needs to be relegated to the few sites that pretend such a thing, and as the site in question deems Israel a Marxist state, even though there is no evidence that the Zionist regime follows Communist teachings. Israel is not a Communist state and the Holocaust probably caused millions to die.
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The Israelis are among the racist people on Earth. They talk of others committing crimes, but they refuse to acknowledge that they do ten times worse. This is but one more example, like the expelled Palestinians from East Jerusalem, where Israel shows its true racism.
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Your protests and arguments about the article on the Red Cross document about the Holocaust are noted. Let me talk about my own personal opinion of this article now since it is generating debate here and seems to be something people here are interested in debating.

First of all, the fact that the source is "racist and bigoted". That might very well be BUT there was once a time when the only discussion about "israel" and zionism being two very bad things was only being discussed by what people referred to as "white supremest" groups. "Skin heads" and other term names like this. Most of us still think of these types of groups and organizations as being racist BUT we have seen in the past 10 years that much of the things they were trying to tell us about "israel" and the Zionists were, in fact, THE TRUTH.

I have never been one to believe that the holocaust never happened. But I am inclined to believe, based on all the information out there that it has been exaggerated. We have been told 6 million Jews but hardly ever do we hear about all the non Jews who were killed in that war also. I want to know why their deaths are not considered as news worthy as the Jews who lost their lives in the holocaust.

And why is it that every one says that they are a SURVIVOR of this holocaust? SO MANY SURVIVORS? There were that many Jews in Europe? 6 million Jews in Europe and all of them killed by Hitler? And then how many Jews were alive and went to Palestine after that? Thousands? Millions? Gee wiz! How many Jews were living in the world at that time in Europe? If that many were killed how could there have been that many survivors? Most of them demanding and receiving COMPENSATION for damages done to them. Every time you turn around someone is claiming to be a holocaust survivor. How is this possible if that many were killed in the first place? I think a lot of people are getting paid compensation THAT IS NOT OWED TO THEM. How long does compensation have to be paid? If Hitler killed all the Jews. 6 MILLION Jews! How could that many, thousands or millions, have survived to migrate to Palestine? Or survived to demand and receive compensation? If they were killed then compensation goes to their spouses or kids right? How long has it been now? So the kids and spouses of those 6 million dead Jews are still alive getting paid? Or is it their grand kids now getting paid? How much? How long? Palestine gets nothing! But yet these so called "survivors" of some holocaust that HAPPENED MORE THAN 4 GENERATIONS AGO are getting paid! WELL WHAT ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN OUR TIME IN FRONT OF OUR VERY EYES IN PALESTINE?????

These are questions being asked. We have a right to ask these questions and we have a right to question it without being called racist or anti semites!

I allow any of my list members to ask these questions by sharing what ever they wish with my news letter in order to pose these questions. If the Jews are going to be offended because we ask these questions then the Jews should have thought about that before they went to Palestine and did all the horrible things they did there claiming their "HOLOCAUST" gives them the right and the excuse to do it! This is the attention they have brought on themselves and their people. Its very bad attention. But they have brought it on themselves!

Granted there are some good and honest Jews in this world who have played no part in this. Do not even support "israel" or the organization known as zionism. I am very sorry that they are being hurt in all of this too but they, like the Palestinian people, are innocent bystanders who do not deserve it but never the less HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT!

Where is the media and Hollywood on the PALESTINIAN HOLOCAUST??? It has been absent all these years!

Before 9-11 and before the arrival of the internet who were the only people in this world willing to take on the subject of "israel" and the zionists? PEOPLE THE REST OF US THOUGHT OF AND REFERRED TO AS RACIST WHITE SUPREMEST.

They were the only ones who gave the question of "israel" any discussion at all. Not the media and not Hollywood. BECAUSE EVERY ONE ELSE WAS TO AFRAID TO! That is what is so pathetic about this whole thing. That it was only those type of people who were willing to even try and have a debate about it.

Well! That has changed now! I am willing to discuss it and debate it and so are a whole lot of other people!

Now, if the facts of the Holocaust as we have always been told by the main stream are in fact true and solid then let it be shown that it is so. If the other side says they have evidence that proves the opposite THEN ALLOW THEM TO BE HEARD WITH OUT CALLING THEM RACIST OR THREATENING TO HAVE THEM JAILED for trying to prove their case.

If, they cannot prove their case then the case is closed. But we cannot determine any thing unless we are allowed to here ALL THE INFORMATION!

Now, I will say this about this article that we are discussing here. I have thought about it and my question about this Red Cross document is that it could be that this is NOT the only R.C. document that shows a counting of the dead. This may be only one from one certain place. So the author of this article is wrong to say that THIS ONE DOCUMENT proves that the entire holocaust was faked.

I do not feel this document alone proves this claim by the author. He has shown some evidence but not enough to conclude that the entire offical story of the Holocaust was faked.

This is my opinion of this article and report and of the subject of the Holocaust as a whole. I will not stop allowing my list members to share reports that question the holocaust in the future just because some people who read my news letters are not comfortable with that type of reporting. On the other hand I will always invite any of you to include your own comments and link sources that may or may not challenge any of the news articles that you find in my news letters. I will not try and silence your voice any more than I will the voice of the other side of this issue. Nor will I berate you in any way for doing so.

I've told you before guys..... IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT.... THEN BY ALL MEANS..... DEBATE IT!

But never make the mistake of thinking to clip the wings of the Bat. Bats have to fly. Even though they are pretty much blind they don't always need eyes to see. They use their brains to get around. And their wings.

So don't ever try to clip my wings.

Other than that... Debate it.... disagree with it.... challenge it.... I'll never think less of you for doing so. In fact I EXPECT YOU TO DO SO.

That is my take on this subject and the article in my news letter about the Red cross document.

Peace out
Bat

Letmy,

You've gone off the deep end.

Ladybat has every right to question the story. It is far from 100% proven. There have been, and continue to be, many claims on all sides that don't pan out. Simple mathematics puts into question the possibility of such a large number of deaths in such a short amount of time.

Then there's the concern of all the others who never get mentioned. The Communists who were killed. They weren't in different camps and there weren't only four or five. There were hundreds of thousands of Communists, rounded up and taken to the same camps and killed at the same time. Yet you avoid their mention. What are you hiding?

What about all the gays, intellectuals and others who were rounded up and hauled off. There seems very little mention of that, and you certainly avoid the issue entirely. I see no reason to hide the total cost of the atrocity. To only point out the Jewish pain and avoid at all costs any mention of anyone else is to commit the same crime of omission as the White supremacist sites.

The problem with the Holocaust is that few people look at the whole picture. There are too many like you, letmy, who look at only the Jewish side. These people refuse to accept any discussion about the event, refuse to acknowledge that anyone other that Jews were punished, and use this one event to justify the murder of millions of others since WWII. This group is indeed mad.

The other group who refuses to believe that the Holocaust was anything special is also equally mad. The Holocaust was one of the most horrific murderous events of WWII, though not the most murderous. Those who say it never happened, or only a scant few fell victim, ignore the proof laid out in countless documentaries filmed at the camps and of the survivors, vicitms lists, German official documents, and other solid evidence of the event. The evidence of an overwhelming murderous atrocity is miles high. This group is mad.

We know the Holocaust happened. We know that Communists, gays, intellectuals, AND Jews were killed in the millions. We know this wasn't the worst atrocity of WWII, but certainly ranks in the top five.

But this is not an excuse to kill today. What happened happened. It is over. Any deaths today cannot be blamed on revenge for the past.

Wendy sent out her comments about this news letter 8-15 to her own list. I thought I would share what she said here since it pertains to this particular bat news letter.....

Hi All,

Lots of good reading here... On the relevant topics.

One was about the Red Cross numbers for Jews killed during WWII at the Nazi concentration camps adding up to 271,000 which is far shorter than the “prophetic” number of “6 million” as per the Talmud and now the Zionists are demanding that everyone “believe” in that figure too, or else they will try to get you ostracized socially or even put you in jail in certain countries if you question or challenge them or even contradict them publicly.  Unbelievable, isn’t it?

I think the figure could possibly be true.  After all, there are so many “survivors” of the “Holocaust”.  And many Jews fled to other countries.

So, anyway, it really does just seem a TAD absurd to go on and on about it, doesn’t it?

But that’s the ZioNazis for you.

At any rate, in one of the comments below the Bat News, someone asserts that Israel is not a Marxist / Communist country but indeed it truly is.

It’s actually a nationalistic socialist (NaZi) state--- after all, no one can actually OWN the land there— it is leased out by a Jewish Israeli quasi-governmental (so they can try to still claim they are a “democracy”)  agency (agencies) that has been in operation there in IsraHell since day one of it’s hellish creation in 1948.  And obviously they lease it out to Jews ONLY.  So that is very communistic, socialistic and nationalistic.

To quote a source, a book entitled “Ethnocracy: Land and Identity Politics in Israel/Palestine” by Oren Yiftachel, which I just found on the internet: “Israel created an institutional and legal land system under which confiscated land could not be sold.  Further, such land did not merely become state land — it became possessed jointly by the state and the entire Jewish people. This was achieved by granting extraterritorial organizations, such as the Jewish National Fund, the Jewish Agency, and the Zionist Federation, a share of the state’s sovereign powers and significant authority in the areas of land, development, and settlement.  The transfer of land to the hands of unaccountable bodies representing the Jewish people can be likened to a black hole into which Arab land enters but can never be retrieved.”

[Not easily, that’s for sure.  But PALESTINE WILL BE FREE!-- Wendy’s note]

It goes on to say..

”This structure ensures the unidirectional character of all land transfers: from Palestinian to Jewish hands and never vice versa.  A stark expression of this legal and institutional setting is that Israel’s Arab citizens are currently prevented from purchasing, leasing, or utilizing land in the entire area of the regional councils, an area that constitutes around 80 percent [AND NOW MUCH MORE, since this book was published in 2004— Wendy’s note] of the country, as detailed in the next chapter.  It can be assumed that the constitutions of most democratic countries would consider such a blatant breach of equal civil rights illegal.  But Israel’s character as a Judaizing state has so far prevented the enactment of a constitution that would guarantee such rights.”

Obviously, then, summing it up, “Israel” is a Jewish supremacist, nationalistic, ethnic-cleansing, genocidal, land-grabbing, murderous state based on Jewish and communist concepts.

W